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gljjr
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: | | | Another nice thing about the Alvey is that it holds 950 yards of line! You'll never get spooled with this baby!
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Cutty Sark
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 12:57 pm Post subject: | | | | Wow, alot more people using them around here than I thought. But I honestly can't believe they would reel in as much or more line in one revolution than a star drag level wind. Is that really true? I just looked up the reel that I use, I beleive its a penn 321GTI And it has a 4.3:1 gear ratio, which I assume means the reel spins 4.3 revolutions for each full crank of the handle. It seems that it would be hard for a knuckle buster or whatever to keep up with that, unless you used a very large reel since they are all 1 to 1. But I know some use much smaller level winds which would hold less line and have a smaller diameter. I'll have to check them out more closely, especially the ones that the handle doesn't turn when a fish runs, thats an awesome feature. Sark |
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B~C
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:17 pm Post subject: | | | Those Alvey reels look like a pretty good value, is that internet site the only place you can buy them? if so, how is it doing business with them? Some of those Alvey reels look a lot like the Mike's red sturgeon reel
Could these be used as a cheap Halibut/bottom fish reel? they hold plenty of line, but would they to much work hauling everything in. I too wonder about the retrevial speed compared to the ever popular Penn 320
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gljjr
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: | | | | Sark, My Alvey is 5.5" in diameter. So the line is actually filled to about 5". Thus 1 turn of the reel brings in about 15" of line. The diameter of the Penn is about 2" so you bring in about 27" of line per revolution. On my old Penn 209 the ratio is 2.3:1. Given that it is about the same size as your Penn it brings in 14" of line per revolution. After catching hundreds of fish on the 209 I have NEVER not been able to reel fast enough to keep up with a fish. I'm not knocking the level wind. They are great reels. But I sure do like the Alvey. Plus the extra long rod works great for taking up the slack when releasing the line from the downrigger clip. If I wanted to spend some big bucks, Islander makes an awsome Mootching reel with the anti-reverse feature. But they are pretty spendy! |
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gljjr
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject: | | | | I got my reel off EBay used. They are pretty rare to find on EBay though. There are a few web sites stateside that sell them. If you google for "Alvey Reels" you will get a lot of hits. Mine has a very nice smooth drag. The star drag on it works very well. I've got it loaded with the Dacron braid that came on it plus 300yds of 60lb Power Pro. BTW: These reels are HEAVY! Don't expect to carry one around all day I think the 525C52 I have weighs in around 2 lbs. |
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hammerhead
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 6:35 pm Post subject: Peetz mooching reels | | | | Check out these guys http://www.peetztackle.com/ They not only make very cool mooching reels and matching rods, the even make clocks.....try them only like $75 US for a very cool reel made out of wood and brass with line counter.
I love mine. Doug
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Cutty Sark
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:23 pm Post subject: | | | | Back when I was stranded in Utah for a couple years I was really into flyfishing, usually three to five days a week on the Provo river and weekend trips to the Green. Man they have great trout fishing in the rivers out there, but any way I had the experience many times of not being able to keep up with the fish when they ran straight towards me, even when stripping in line and not reeling at all. So I guess I just flash back to some nice trout I lost and blamed on that fact. As I said I'm not knocking those reels either, I'm going to get one sooner or later. I think they look like a hoot. And coming from a flyfishing background I can relate to the differences. It just seemed unlikely to me that they would keep up with the trusty penn. We all have preferences especially in fishing. Ask 5 successful fisherman what they are cathing them on and I guarantee there will be at least three different anwers, if not five. Thats the beauty of it. Good topic though. I can not wait to getout and do some fishing after all this talk. Sark |
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Helen O
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:25 pm Post subject: | | | My vast experience with a mooching reel totals one weekend fishing. Back in the 80's a friend asked me to go fishing up on Puget Sound. He told me we were going to mooch for blackmouth and to bring my favorite steelhead rod. I brought a 9 ft. Lamiglass rod mounted with a Shimano BMT 251 reel... which is a typical small baitcasting reel used for steelhead. The reel was loaded with 12 lb test mono.
Fishing in 150-200 ft. of water left me with very little line left on the spool, He loaned me the use of his extra mooching reel which retrieved much faster at that depth than mine did. His reels had a hole machined in the spool's shaft and you used your thumb pressure for the drag. Basically it was just a spool that you attached to the rod, but it sure was fun to use. I'd like to find one simular.
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:28 pm Post subject: | | | those Peetz reels have the family heirloom look and a good price. I gazed at those Islanders at a marine supply store in Victoria, thems some spendy reels.
The sportsman show in Portland is next week and I'll be looking for a good deal on a reel. I'll probably be lucky if I can find a Shimano. It will be kind of fun to try something different |
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DodgeRam
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| | Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 10:38 pm Post subject: | | | | 32 years ago I cut my first salmon with a single action 6'' wooden rell that can carry 600 yards . I still have that rell and will strart using it again this year, those rell are still being made in Victoria by the same family . I have 2 shimano 2000gt that have been using , but I am saving to get me a MR2 Islander about $550. Ca. those Islander will last you a life time if you take good care of them. I personnaly think that this a great way to cacth salmon, with a little practice using a single action reel you will become a master at fighing those mithy King salmon . |
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dogon dory
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| | Posted: Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:29 am Post subject: | | | | my computer wouldn't do anything with that link |
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I was really into flyfishing, usually three to five days a week on the Provo river and weekend trips to the Green. Man they have great trout fishing in the rivers out there, but any way I had the experience many times of not being able to keep up with the fish when they ran straight towards me, even when stripping in line and not reeling at all. So I guess I just flash back to some nice trout I lost and blamed on that fact. As I said I'm not knocking those reels either, I'm going to get one sooner or later. I think they look like a hoot. And coming from a flyfishing background I can relate to the differences. It just seemed unlikely to me that they would keep up with the trusty penn. We all have preferences especially in fishing. Ask 5 successful fisherman what they are cathing them on and I guarantee there will be at least three different anwers, if not five. Thats the beauty of it. Good topic though. I can not wait to getout and do some fishing after all this talk.
