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Re: here's one for survivalists...:D Bushwacker#369151201/18/10 | |
D DocRocket Campfire Ranger | |
 DocRocket Campfire Ranger D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 18,005 | Originally Posted by Bushwacker Just keep in mind how many of his friends he may have told and how the word may spread that you have what they want. I'm not worried in this case. I've known this young man for years, and he is very intelligent and very, very discrete. His old man is an intellectual property lawyer who does work for me from time to time, so Mike has been steeped in the tea of confidentiality. He has since moved away, but when he comes home for holidays he always gives me a call and we head out to the range together to do some shooting. Trust me. Very few people have a clue where my zombie room is, or what's in it. And to get to the good stuff, they would have to get through several layers of security, including me. I learned a long time ago that home is not necessarily a safe place, and the only gun I can count on is the one that's on my person. Last edited by DocRocket; 01/18/10. Reason: further explication "I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars |
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Re: here's one for survivalists...:D Bushwacker#369151301/18/10 | |
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna | |
EthanEdwards Campfire Kahuna Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 54,284 | Originally Posted by Bushwacker Just keep in mind how many of his friends he may have told and how the word may spread that you have what they want. That kind of stuff I would keep on the down low and I rarely let anyone know all that I have and where. I have three different locations that my gear could be at, so let them guess, and they'll have to fight me for it. But if you let a "friend" into your front door, make sure it isn't just so he can get your stash. Survival turns some people into "Zombies" Well Bushwhacker, I wish we had more police like you around here. I honestly think the worst threat of thievery and about any other lawlessness you'd find would be from the local cops. |
Re: here's one for survivalists...:D eh76#369151801/18/10 | |
D DocRocket Campfire Ranger | |
DocRocket Campfire Ranger D Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 18,005 | Originally Posted by elkhunter76 Good point, but you obviously don't know Doc. Hmmm... that could be compliment, I s'pose.... ? "I'm gonna have to science the schit out of this." Mark Watney, Sol 59, Mars |
Re: here's one for survivalists... mjbgalt#369156101/18/10 | |
W whelennut Campfire Tracker | |
whelennut Campfire Tracker W Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 6,698 | Ithaca 37 LAPD and lots and lots of buckshot. Let them come to me. Then it is self defense. I like to do my hunting BEFORE I pull the trigger! |
Re: here's one for survivalists...:D DocRocket#369157301/18/10 | |
eh76 Campfire Kahuna | |
eh76 Campfire Kahuna Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 52,680 | Originally Posted by DocRocket Originally Posted by elkhunter76 Good point, but you obviously don't know Doc. Hmmm... that could be compliment, I s'pose.... ? It was....even though you drive a Subaru Liberalism is a mental disorder that leads to social disease. |
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Re: here's one for survivalists... mjbgalt#369173301/18/10 | |
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger | |
Jim in Idaho Campfire Ranger Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 28,441 Likes: 11 | If the SHTF for a little while then I want food, water and medicine. Plus a nice cargo trailer for my bicycle. If it comes time to leave in a vehicle, then I want a little concealable firearm in addition to something that breaks down and can be concealed and re-assembled after the "authorities" disarm everyone trying to leave. Friends - that what I'd mostly want. Lots of friends. Even if the SHTF until forever I'd value friends more than about anything else. My family went through three weeks of no electricity after Rita or Wilma or one of those passed through Ft. Lauderdale. A falling tree knocked off a corner of my old bedroom's roof. Trees down all over and streets blocked for a good while so no vehicles except major 4WD going anywhere. Even those couldn't move for a few days. The neighbors banded together and helped each other. The neighborhood association president (the evil power mad Nazis) set up a central communication center in a neighborhood park with notices posted as to cleanup efforts, status of open routes and stores or when supply deliveries would be made and that sort of thing. That's also where the FEMA ice and food trucks set up. One or three people from the local street would take a couple of kid's wagons over the 8 blocks or so to the park and get bags of ice and stuff for several households. What gas people had in their cars was it. No electricity so the gas stations couldn't pump gas, no electricity so even if they did the cash registers wouldn't work. Pretty pathetic. But no gun battles and no zombie hordes. One guy with an ATV was running around pretty fast where kids were trying to help clean up and there were some heated words but when five or six guys came out to talk to him that was the end of that. My dear 90 year old Mother (who has been through probably a dozen or more major hurricanes in Ft. Lauderdale since 1948) said the worst part of the whole thing was taking a bath in cold water for three weeks. Gunnery, gunnery, gunnery. |
Re: here's one for survivalists... Jim in Idaho#369182501/18/10 | |
Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,796 Likes: 3 M mjbgalt Campfire Ranger | |
OP mjbgalt Campfire Ranger M Joined: Jan 2008 Posts: 15,796 Likes: 3 | i am less afraid of natural disasters and more afraid of the stuff that happens on schedule, scheduled by those with a way to profit. |
Re: here's one for survivalists... mjbgalt#369191101/18/10 | |
Borealis Bob Campfire Regular | |
Borealis Bob Campfire Regular Joined: Apr 2001 Posts: 2,688 | If I had to bug out, I'd take an iron-sighted .22 rifle and a 45ACP. Not having a specific place to go to I assume I would have to be somewhat nomadic, and light weight equipment would be handy. While the idea of packing a larger arsenal would seem to cover all contingencies, keep in mind that food/calories would be somewhat shorthanded (no matter how good a hunter/scrounger one might be). Toting all that additional gunnery and ammo would get wearisome and cumbersome after a bit. "The whole problem with the world is that fools & fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubt" Bertrand Russell |
Re: here's one for survivalists... Borealis Bob#369361401/18/10 | |
rattler Campfire Ranger | |
rattler Campfire Ranger Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 28,605 | someone mentioned what if natural disasters force you out.....only two natural disasters hit here that would be big enough to have to force me out.....we dont have huricanes, dont have earthquakes big enough to matter(ive never felt one but there is a weak spot in the plate north of me that gets slight tremors now and then), dont have major floods you cant getaway from cause there is plenty of high ground.... the two natural disasters that would screw me are the ice sheets coming back down out of the arctic and Yellowstone blowing....in the first case, it will take long enough to happen that i will be long dead, in the second im close enough to be [bleep], far enough away to be able to have the time to make myself a drink and enjoy the last show im gonna ever see.... A serious student of the "Armchair Safari" always looking for Africa/Asia hunting books |
Re: here's one for survivalists... rattler#369397101/18/10 | |
1 1akhunter Campfire Outfitter | |
1akhunter Campfire Outfitter 1 Joined: Sep 2003 Posts: 13,670 Likes: 1 | depends upon the scenario on whether I decide to bug in or bug out if trouble seems to be short in duration we could get by fine right here for a spell. Home central is where we have my little mormon market. grew up pretty poor on a farm, our wealth was measured by what was in the root cellar and the freezer. I was raised by products of the depression so though I never went hungry growing up, they had, wouldn't matter how much money I had in the bank, if I didn't have enough food to last me 3 months or so I'd feel poor. for complete and utter lawlessness and having to worry about protecting what I've laid away for me and mine. We're headed to the cabin, used to living old fashioned there, we do it for fun, but what peace of mind knowing you could do so if had to cause you've practiced. pretty easy once the cabin neighbors are accounted for, too drop enough trees that you'd either discourage those wanting to get there or have warning of them coming. course I'd haul quite a bit of foodstuff and guns and ammo there in a protracted TEOWAWKI I'd probably head home to the hills of MO and garden and farm and hunt. Have enough acreage, would invite some trusted friends and family so we could multiply manpower and have a small force to meet with aggression and post guards along with the guard dogs. bit problematic gettin all the stuff outa here, but have a pard that owns a fleet of C-46's and DC-6's, bestest pard is his longest serving mechanic, guess if it was really as nasty to have to do so those could be employed and we'd haul families and provisions outa here and start our own version of the Stand. to the original question, everyone in my family will be armed up to and including weapons you'd most likely find on corpses (that's a nasty thought) 40mm, .223, .45 acp, don't own any 9mm never cared for it and of course the venerable .22 though I'm short on currency for it, having two boys will cause you to burn up some .22 ammo I'm probably down to 5K rounds of the stuff. I've got sufficient ammo for the other calibers to withstand a protracted firefight before needing to worry about resupply. hope these are just academic thought exercises much like I hope my fire insurance was a giant waste of money but I prefer being as prepared as possible for all contigencies "This ain't dress rehearsal....it's the life you get to live, make it a good one." TEAMWORK = a bunch of people doing what I say |
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Re: here's one for survivalists... 1akhunter#369423601/18/10 | |
BC30cal Campfire Outfitter | |
BC30cal Campfire Outfitter Joined: May 2007 Posts: 12,186 Likes: 9 | 1akhunter; Way back in the November 2001 issue of Guns, Mr. John Taffin had a wonderful story called �The True Survivalists Stockpile�. While I wish I could link the whole thing here, the last couple of paragraphs were right on the money � or so I thought anyway.Quoting Mr. Taffin here: �We live in such a shallow world today. Honesty, Integrity, Honor, Loyalty, True Friendship: Our future survival as a nation depends upon these values, which seem to be forgotten by so many people today. We not only need to pass the shooting sports on to younger generations, we need to pass on the most important things in live. All of us have probably gathered firearms, ammunition and supplies just in case society unravels someday. If everything ever really does come apart, we would be much better off with a stockpile of friends than alone with an arsenal of weapons.� I really believe Mr. Taffin had several points there and I endeavored to take them to heart. Having said that, whenever the news shows someone with what they term an �arsenal� for some reason, my wife and our daughters look at me, then at the TV and start laughing. I hope you and yours have a good week Randy. Oh and you�d better go pickup a brick or two of .22 shells. Dwayne The most important stuff in life isn't "stuff" |
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